From the statements of police investigators and looking at the aerial view above of where the body of Karina Vetrano was found I would estimate that this was a plan in play for weeks or even months for the killer to get close to Karina Vetrano when she was alone. I do not believe in coincidences, psycho male stalkers will take notice of an attractive female who frequents the same area as them, they will zero in on what time and what days she may frequent an area so they can be there, they will watch her for days, weeks or even months.
Officials added that they have recovered DNA at the scene but were unable to find a match in their database. “A DNA profile was developed from three parts of the investigation: from the victim’s phone, Karina’s phone, from touch DNA from her neck, and also … other parts of her person,” Boyce said. “We were able to identify a DNA profile. We put that into our database, and there was no nationwide hit on it or any state hit on it.” However, the extent of the untested rape kit backlog in New York State is unknown. New York law does not require law enforcement to track or test rape kits. In 2015, The Accountability Project issued open records requests to bring the number of untested kits in Albany, Buffalo and Rochester to light. To date, we have not received complete responses to these requests. The proposed 2016 law also requires newly collected kits to be sent to a crime lab for testing within 10 days of receipt and the lab to analyze those kits within 90 days. Under this law, law enforcement agencies must also submit all rape kits currently in storage to a lab within 180 days of enactment and the lab must complete testing within 120 days of receipt. This year New York is considering a bill that would require an inventory of backlogged rape kits, according to the Joyful Heart Foundation, a nonprofit founded by actress Mariska Hargitay of the Law and Order: Special Victims Unit television program and which advocates for the testing of all rape kits.
A Florida crime spree in Sarasota and Bradenton that included several rapes may have continued for months because the FBI failed to process a DNA sample from the former federal prison inmate Delmer Smith now suspected (and convicted) in the crimes. DNA evidence linking the crimes to the suspect was available in February 2009, but FBI DNA records turned up no matches because the suspect's DNA sample, given in March 2008, wasn't tested until September 2009 -- after the suspect had been identified from other evidence. Federal authorities acknowledged that they had had a DNA sample from home invasion and rape suspect Delmer Smith III during the months detectives say he attacked numerous women in their homes in a violent crime spree. But Smith's DNA had never been entered into the FBI's DNA databases, so authorities in Florida's Sarasota County didn't get a match from DNA they say Smith, 38, left behind in four rapes and two murders.
Karina Vetrano usually always runs with her father in the same area on or about the same time around 5:00pm, on the day of the murder she was alone, just a coincidence I think not. Karina was caught on camera jogging past a home around 5:46 p.m., and she also exchanged several texts with a gal pal. The jogging path comes up to a blind spot by the large trees seen in the photo at the top of this post, perfect spot to hide, this would be the killers planned location to wait for Karina Vetrano. The weeds along side the unpaved jogging path are upwards of 10 feet high, providing cover for anyone on the trail on a bike or even a off road motorcycle. Police say a used condom was found near the body of Karina Vetrano, I truly believe this was a planned rape/murder. The New York Daily News said a man, “who is not believed to be the killer, was seen coming out of the weeds at Spring Creek Park near the Belt Parkway, see above, around the time Vetrano was killed on August 2.” PIX 11 says a utility worker described him to police, see his sketch below.
Possibly the killer had also used the path for months before the murder of Karina Vetrano on August 2nd, another jogger or mountain bike rider or off road motorcycle rider. There are houses that line one side of both 161st Ave. and 78th St. across from the marsh, I doubt the killer would have come out of the weeds and walked along 161st Ave. or 78th St. in full view of the neighborhood. The jogging path leads out to another paved bike/jogging path that runs alongside the Belt Parkway, there is open entrance here. Killer would have wanted an escape route to leave the area undetected.
Karina Vetrano’s body was found shortly before 9 p.m. Tuesday about 15 feet from a trail near 161st Avenue and 78th Street in Spring Creek Park, Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce said. The grieving dad of a Queens jogger who was sexually assaulted and killed on her nightly run wants to hire a private investigator to dig up clues that can bring her killer to justice, he said Wednesday. The jogging path that Karina was on is also used by ATVs and firetrucks putting out brush fires, and neighbors and others outside the community use it for running or other sports like mountain bike riding and off road motorcycle riding. The area is somewhat noisy with aircraft flying low overhead from JFK. Apparently Karina Vetrano was first hit in the head and some of her teeth knocked out, then strangled to death. Police indicate that maybe Karina was first hit in the head with a rock but a motorcycle helmet would also inflict the same kind of damage. Keep in mind Karina Vetrano was a moving target.
Photo above is Karina Vetrano jogging past a home around 5:46 p.m. on Tuesday August 2nd 2016 just before she went into the marsh area with high weeds in Howard Beach NY, she appears to be moving at a fairly fast pace. Average foot speed of a jogger in shape is about 7 mph (miles per hour) in which you would cover 1 mile in about 8 minutes, she had been running 3 to 5 miles most evenings. The killer would have had to be looking for her coming up the trail in the marsh with high weeds or she would have been on him before he could act. The killer would not have been sitting down doing drugs or drinking, he would have had to be standing up and on watch. Based on what evidence is available and having done years of surveillance of people on foot or on bikes moving around, I don't think this was a chance encounter with the rapist/murderer.
The man in the sketch is a possible witness who could provide detectives leads in the Aug. 2 homicide of Karina Vetrano. He is not considered a suspect. Detectives believe he may be able to provide information about what he may have seen around the time Vetrano is believed to have been killed. The man was spotted by a utility worker near the top of Spring Creek Park, and detectives have not yet been able to locate him to interview him for information. Why is this guy ruled out as a suspect in the rape/murder of Katrina Vetrano if cops do not know who he is, the black wool cap could have eyes cut out so it could be used as a mask when pulled down over his face, just sayin! Rapist/murderer Delmer Smith in Sarasota Fl heat used a black wool cap with eyes cut out so it could be used as a mask. Cops had his DNA but it was not entered into CODIS till months after his prison release allowing him to rape at least 9 women before he was caught.
Here is his description:
- Black male
- 35 to 45 years old
- Height: 5'10"
- Medium build
- Wearing dark pants with a red t-shirt and dark wool hat
Chief Robert Boyce with the NYPD said the dark wool hat may be key in tracking down this individual. "Remember, the day was Aug. 2. You don't usually wear a wool hat in the area there," Boyce said. "We don't know who he is, we don't know if he is a fellow jogger, what he is doing." Karina Vetrano’s father says police should talk to missing mystery jogger. Phil Vetrano in a WABC radio interview with Guardian Angel Founder Curtis Sliwa talked about a jogger that regularly ran in the same area, but has not been seen since his daughter's death. "We just want to question him, I just want to question him because I would see him almost every day," Vetrano said. "Now he's dropped off the face of the Earth." It ain’t him. Following Vetrano’s interview, the man matching the description turned himself in to police, reported the New York Post. “He’s a 48-year-old man who hurt his knee and stopped jogging,” NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce said. “Nothing more heinous than that.” “He’s not a subject at all,” Boyce added. “We spoke to him last night. He voluntarily came into the precinct, and we sat down, and we talked to him. He self-identified as that person that Phil would see jogging prior to that. It was just an injury.”
9 Registered Sex Offenders were found living in Howard Beach, NY 11414, several of them live on the the other side of the Belt Parkway near the entrance to Spring Creek Park in Howard Beach where Karina Vetrano runs, several of the registered sex offenders have convictions for violent rape and sodomy. One of the registered sex offenders lives on 86th Street between 163rd Ave and 164th Ave Howard Beach. In my experience, sex offenders are never cured and they tend to hang with other like minded people, although DNA collected from the rape of Karina Vetrano does not match any felons in the State and National database, which would include sex offenders, I’m sure the NYPD is tracking down and questioning the associates of these 9 registered sex offenders who live in Howard Beach, who are their friends, who visited them, etc..
The over the top violent rape and murder of Karina Vetrano in broad daylight on August 2nd at around 6:00 pm would suggest to me a perp who has done it before, a guy not afraid of cops, a guy who had spent time in prison, like rapist/murderer Delmer Smith in Sarasota Fl, who honed his violent skills while doing 15 years in the joint. Ex-con Delmer Smith's had his DNA collected upon release from prison but it was not entered into CODIS the FBI National DNA database until months later allowing him to rape 9 women and murder 2 before he was captured on other charges.
Sarasota rapist Delmer Smith wore a black wool cap with eyes cut out in all his attacks. Delmer Smith III, 38, was arrested Sept. 10th 2009 on a federal warrant for a violation of probation after a violent bar fight in a Venice gay bar where his girl friend was the DJ, he beat in the face of his helpless victim, he was subsequently linked to and convicted of four home invasion rapes and the murder of one. I would not rule out anyone at this point in the unsolved rape/murder of Karina Vetrano, you can't rely on collected DNA evidence alone to rule out potential suspects before an arrest and positive DNA match. I hope all the registered sex offenders and recent prison parole's in the Howard Beach area are re-tested and cops get a new DNA sample.
“In case it goes cold, I’m going to have to bring someone in,” Phil Vetrano said about the investigation into his daughter Karina Vetrano’s death on Wednesday. “Someone like Perry Mason.” Vetrano said he would only hire the private investigator with the permission of the NYPD, who updates him daily about the case. The 30-year-old stunner was jogging through Spring Creek Park in Howard Beach on Aug. 2 when she was sexually assaulted and strangled, police said. Her dad called police when she didn’t return home and found his child’s body during an intense search of the head-high weeds.“I want to start a fund to catch the killer, that would be used to hire outside sources to track down and bring this person to justice,” he added. “So if you still want to contribute to find justice for Karina this is what we are going to do.” NYPD detectives have collected the killer’s DNA from the crime scene, but have yet to match it to anyone. NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce said Vetrano can do anything he wished to keep the case alive.
"All Crimes Start in the mind". The internet is flooded with 'movies' that depict young females subjected to violent rape and simulated death by strangulation, a recurring theme is the young attractive female jogger with a ponytail who is stalked, trapped, raped and strangled in the woods. These films are produced and distributed under names like Psycho-Thrillers. Enormous time, effort and expense are invested in the industry producing professional-grade HD videos. Great numbers of young female performers "play dead" before cameras for $1,800 per film. Fetishists can access this disturbing fringe of the internet with impunity, and the images could twist 'viewers' attitudes toward women into violence.
Back in 1999 the Film/Mystery "8mm" was released with Nicolas Cage, Joaquin Phoenix, James Gandolfini (of Sopranos fame) and Peter Stormare. The story line was Nicolas Cage as a private investigator is hired to discover if a "snuff film" is authentic or not. Private detective Tom Welles (Nicolas Cage) lives a normal life with his wife (Catherine Keener) and young daughter, until he receives the startling new case. "8mm'' is a dark, dank journey into the underworld of snuff films, undertaken by a private investigator who is appalled and changed by what he finds. It deals with the materials of violent exploitation films of women. Back in 1999 these type of simulated snuff films were sold under the counter at sex shops, unfortunately now these type of simulated snuff films with x-rated activity have exploded on the internet and are easily viewed and downloaded for free. When blond stunner Holly Bobo was kidnapped in Darden TN she was subjected to rape and bondage by the Zach Adams gang and eventually killed all the while being filmed on various cell phone videos, the meth heads were acting out what they viewed on the internet and made a snuff film. "All Crimes Start in the mind", view it, think it, do it. Just like violent video games have been seen as inspiration for mass shootings like at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown Conn, the unsolved August 2nd rape and strangulation murder of Queens jogger Karina Vetrano follows the story line of 'snuff films' produced by Psycho-Thrillers.
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