Tuesday, March 24, 2009

Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch says Islamberg, N.Y “furthers the cause of global Islamic Jihad”, ‘Blogger Spencer” has no proof to back up his claims.

Quiet Muslim-Only Town in N.Y. Founded by Alleged Terrorist
FOX NEWS. Monday, March 23, 2009 HANCOCK, N.Y. If you didn't know where to look, you'd probably never find Islamberg, a private Muslim community in the woods of the western Catskills, 150 miles northwest of New York City (about 45 miles East of Binghamton off of Route 17).

The town, sitting on a quiet dirt road past a gate marked with No Trespassing signs, is home to an estimated 100 residents. There are small houses and other buildings visible from the outside, but it is what can't be seen from beyond the gate that has some watchers worried.

Islamberg was founded in 1980 by Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani, a Pakistani cleric who purchased a 70-acre plot and invited followers, mostly Muslim converts living in New York City, to settle there.

The town has its own mosque, grocery store and schoolhouse. It also reportedly has a firing range where residents take regular target practice. Gilani established similar rural enclaves across the country — at least six, including the Red House community in southern Virginia — though some believe there are dozens of them, all operating under the umbrella of the "Muslims of the Americas" group founded by Gilani.

Federal authorities say Gilani was also one of the founders of Jamaat al-Fuqra, a terrorist organization believed responsible for dozens of bombings and murders across the U.S. and abroad. The group was linked to the planning of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and 10 years earlier a member was arrested and later convicted for bombing a hotel in Portland, Ore
FOX News attempted to visit Islamberg after earlier efforts to set up on-camera interviews were rebuffed. A spokesman said by phone that residents typically shy away from interviews since they worry their words will be manipulated and turned against them.

Local police told FOX News there has been plenty of rumor and innuendo over the years but very little trouble. The FBI's Albany Division said the agency has an open discourse with the residents of Islamberg. They've visited the compound but won't discuss whether there are any ongoing investigations.
"Blogger" Robert Spencer, says the group is making a concerted public relations effort to present a benign face and hide its violent past.

"I think we need to be very much on guard about every member of these compounds," he said. Though Spencer admits there is nothing inherently wrong with living in isolation, he stressed that "they're not at all open to visitors, they're not at all open to scrutiny and there's an abundance of evidence of sinister goings-on." "Blogger" Spencer offered no evidence to back his misgivings.

Perhaps "Blogger" Robert Spencer should do some actual investigation of the Islamberg compond before he makes statements to the media he can not back up.

I, Private Investigator Bill Warner, grew up in Binghamton NY about 45 miles from the Muslims of the Americas compund and have written extensively on the links to terrorisim and the radical teaching at the compound, I have proof.

The "Muslims of the Americas" in New York State (they have several around the USA) property is near the Cannonsville Reservoir and Watershed Area, one of several water supply sources servicing New York City and adjacent areas.

MOA Cop Killer On Trial in Fresno California Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah is from Binghamton NY and was/is a member of the "Muslims of the Americas", the same group that had a parade permit in Binghamton NY for Saturday 4/05/2008. Finally facing justice for his crime, Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah, 26, in Fresno County, California for killing Deputy Sheriff Erik Telen in 2001, (he was convicted).

He is pleading insanity in his defense, the usual lone Muslim gunman terror defence. SEE POLICE BACKGROUND INFO ON ABDULLAH HERE

Abdullah was a member of the Muslims of the Americas (MOA) in Binghamton/Hancock NY, he moved to Fresno CA and joined the MOA there. I find it ludicrous that the Binghamton Police Department had to provide security for the MOA parade in Binghamton NY!

See My Prior Post; Saturday, May 03, 2008, MUSLIMS OF THE AMERICAS IN BINGHAMTON NY, by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR BILL WARNER...MOA Cop Killer Ramadan Abdullah on trial, MOA Parade in Binghamton NY "I PULLED THE TRIGGER WHILE I WAS IN PRAYER" Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah, a member of Jamaat ul-Fuqra aka Muslims of the Americas, Judge to decide trial this week in California for the 2001 murder of a sheriff’s deputy. Ramadan Abdur Abdullah received firearm training at the the "Muslims of Americas " compound 45 miles East of Binghamton NY (in Hancock NY) whose overall leader is Sheikh Giliani.

MOA has camps in Fresno CA: Hancock NY: Red House VA: Hyattsville, Maryland; Macon, Georgia; York, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee; Buena Vista, Colorado; Talihina, Oklahoma; Commerce, California; and Onalaska, Washington. The Red House compound cropped up in 1993. Others are under construction, including an expansive facility in Sherman, Pennsylvania and the world wide HQ is in Lahore PK wirh founder Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.

bill Warner
private investigator